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The staff here has always been committed to keeping your chat experience the safest and friendliest possible.Predestination, free will or both, I want to know.The only text I have I have trusted over biblical matters is the bible, (usually NIV) and it isn't clear.Thank you for visiting Jesusrocksonirc Free Christian Chat rooms provided for everyone.God commands everyone to repent, so why is He commanding all people to repent if it does not matter to the ones He did not choose.The Bible says if a person holds unto sin the blood of Christ cannot wash that sin away.Nickname, number of characters left 15, age.Which if a person hates sin, and does not want sin, they can abstain from sin by the Spirit.Can it be both?Those that God chose would mean that their faith, their love, their hope, their confession of Christ, is not real for it did not come from them but from God.You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the.So God wants all people to be saved, so God did not choose who will be saved, and not saved, without their choice, so they should understand the Bible.Calibob said: I've received an appropriate number of responses about my gay bashing post but it was mostly about gays, the second paragraph questioned predestination.For God is love, and His kingdom love, and He is not evil, and He could not judge the wicked for their sins if He chose them in the beginning to not be saved, for they did not have the choice to obey the truth.Which the Bible says that some have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof, ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth, for they think that they are right with God even if they hold unto sin and.Pierre and MiquelonSudanSurinameSvalbard and Jan Mayen Arab United Republic and and Caicos Arab EmiratesUnited KingdomUnited StatesUnited States Minor Outlying City State (Holy See)VenezuelaViet NamVirgin Islands (British)Virgin Islands (U.S.)Wallis and Futuna IslandsWestern SaharaYemenSerbiaDemocratic Republic of CongoZambiaZimbabwePalestine.God is not evil that He would condemn people that have no choice in their salvation, for it would go against the nature of God.The Spirit and bride say Come, and anybody that wants salvation can have that salvation.If predestination is true and God chooses who will be saved, and not saved, without their choice, there are some things to consider.The saints are predestined to salvation means that God already had the plan to give mankind salvation before He laid down the foundation of the world, and this salvation is to whoever wants this salvation.When God calls a person He will work in their life to get them to the truth, and when they get to the door of truth they have to open it for we have a choice, but they would of not gotten to the door.
That means that God's kingdom is not true love, for the people that believe in the God of Israel, and confess Christ, do not truly love God but they have no choice but to obey the truth seeing no other alternative.
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